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“SHORTAGE OF ENERGY” or “LONGAGE OF PEOPLE”?
By Jay Hanson, August 21, 2007
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Longage is always soluble; a shortage may not be. — Garrett Hardin
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation.
There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize.
There is a failure here that topples all our success. — John Steinbeck
A specter is haunting developed countries, the specter of “peak oil.” If you were born after 1960, you will probably die of violence, starvation or contagious disease. This is because our genetic demand for more-and-more resources, within a physical environment of less-and-less “net energy”[1] available for those resources, will inevitably lead to widespread violence and global nuclear war.
Geologists have calculated that global oil production [2] and North American natural gas production [3] are peaking about now. American coal is expected to peak about 2035.[4] No alternative — even nuclear [5] — has the potential to replace more than a tiny fraction of the power presently generated by fossil fuels.
America was specifically designed by special interests (e.g., General Motors, Firestone and Standard Oil) to require fossil fuel and automobiles [6] to be viable. The exhaustion of fossil fuel will leave many millions of Americans with no access to food or water and facing certain death. For example, ten or more millions of people in Southern California alone will die within a couple of days after drinking their toilet tanks and swimming pools dry.
Since it’s literally impossible to increase global net energy production, the only approaches which can mitigate this problem are national — to either increase national net energy, or reduce national energy demand, or both. The primary goal of American public policy should be to minimize the suffering [7] of as many American citizens as possible by delivering basic “needs”[8] gratis. Unfortunately, our democratic [9] form of government can not direct us to any specific goal because it is “process politics” instead of “systems politics”:
“As the name implies, process politics emphasizes the adequacy and fairness of the rules governing the process of politics. If the process is fair, then, as in a trial conducted according to due process, the outcome is assumed to be just — or at least the best the system can achieve. By contrast, systems politics is concerned primarily with desired outcomes; means are subordinated to predetermined ends.”[10]
Indeed, all measures that our present government takes to mitigate our problems will make them even worse! [11] Since our present government can not direct us to any specific goal, the first step in mitigation must be to invent a new systems politics. In other words, dump our present “special interest” government in favor of a new “common interest” government based on a new set of values:
“In brief, liberal democracy as we know it — that is, our theory or ‘paradigm’ of politics — is doomed by ecological scarcity; we need a completely new political philosophy and set of political institutions. Moreover, it appears that the basic principles of modern industrial civilization are also incompatible with ecological scarcity and that the whole ideology of modernity growing out of the Enlightenment, especially such central tenets as individualism, may no longer be viable.”[12]
The closest example in our experience was the country on a war footing during World War Two when our economy was directed towards the specific goal of winning the war. Moreover, even if the entire economy were directed towards developing renewable energy supplies, it would be a significant challenge to avoid anarchy because energy available for consumer goods could fall to about 30% of demand:
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Audio clip (2004)
Predicts that debt can not longer grow or be served when oil production falters. Savinar is a bright analyst, and proves it here.
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Suposevly were running out of oil. While demand contines to rise production will start to decrease. Every single thing that makes up modern life depends on fossile fules. Also without fossile fules we would not be able to support close to the amount of people that exist today. What do you think will happen in the next 50 years regarding these issues? On a side note would investing in oil etf’s be a good choise as far as investments go?
Peak oil is basically a myth propagated by Western geologists, the oil industry and some industry oberservers who do not take into account other forms of oil generation such as the "abiogenic or abiotic oil theory" of the origins of oil which is largely dismissed by those same people.. They may have good intentions in warning people of the possibilty ..or probability…of reduced oil reserves in the future but they exclude information which contradicts those assertions…intentional or not.
It’s becoming increasingly evident that oil actually has a duplex origin…one origin is from creatures (fossils) buried long ago and another origin is from "abiogenic or abiotic" processes deep within the earth. While it may be true that the "low hanging fruit" is gone and oil prices will continue to rise as it gets harder to retrieve…oil from abiotic origins is found much deeper than fossil fuels (biotic oil)…., there is ample evidence that the oil reserves on earth are vastly underestimated. A single offshore, deep water drilling rig can cost a half billion dollars and from 3-600,000 dollars per day to operate to get at oil at 30,000 feet or more below the surface which means in order to extract deeper reserves of oil, it’s going to cost more per barrel. Companies like Noble Corporation out of Texas (if you want, invest with them) have drilled some of the deepest wells in the Gulf of Mexico and the Western coast of Africa….they have directional drilling methods that can hit a "sweet spot" the size of a refrigerator at 30,000 feet…no easy trick.
And there is also a new method/process to convert garbage and waste products into oil…known as the TDP process or Thermal Depolymerization. We can actually convert the billions of tons of carbon-based garbage or waste we produce every year into oil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWf9nYbm3ac
Here’s a few links on the subject of abiotic oil which may change your mind as to whether we are running out of oil or not……..
Confessions of an ex-peak oil believer…..
http://321energy.com/editorials/engdahl/engdahl092607.html
Other related links defining and expalining what abiogenic or abiotic oil theory is………
http://memes.org/abiogenic-petroleum-origin-wikipedia-abiotic-oil
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
"Fossils From Animals And Plants Are Not Necessary For Crude Oil And Natural Gas, Swedish Researchers Find"… a Science Daily story…….
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090910084259.htm
A Harvard magazine article referring to abiotic origins of oil and gas………
"investigators combined three abiotic (non-living) materials — water (H2O), limestone (CaCO3), and iron oxide (FeO) — and crushed the mixture together with the same intense pressure found deep below the earth’s surface. This process created methane (CH4), the major component of natural gas. Herschbach says this offers evidence, although as yet far from proof, for a maverick theory that much of the world’s supply of so-called fossil fuels may not derive from the decay of dinosaur-era organisms after all."
http://harvardmagazine.com/2005/03/rocks-into-gas.html
Is Haiti the new Saudi Arabia?……..
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/Prize_Haiti/prize_haiti.html
Audio clip (2004)
Predicts that debt can not longer grow or be served when oil production falters. Savinar is a bright analyst, and proves it here.
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Peak Oil will inevitably occur. The debate surrounding peak oil is not over its existence, but its chronology. Even if we were to assume conservative estimates, our developed societies are so entrenched in oil production we should begin to mitigate the consequences IMMEDIATELY.
Google Peak Oil Theory
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Question to Helen Clark and John Key regarding policies preparing New Zealand for the aftermath of Peak Oil (world peak oil production).
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Peak Oil is the point of maximum production rates… it is not about “Running out of oil”
When peak oil production is reached, and demand for oil continues to soar. Then the price of oil will continue to go up.
Links in the Video:
Bakken Formation (wiki): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakken_Formation
Video on Energy-Return-Over-Invested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztgz-QOOrs8
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war plan for oil transition, Oil Expert Matt Simmons on oil production, oil reserves, the coming energy crisis, depletion, north sea oil, tar sands, natural gas, deceptive practices, the economy, Chavez, US oil policy.
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Around the 5:30 mark he says it:
“See, there’s 85 million barrels [of oil production] a day in the world, and that is–I believe is Peak Oil. You have capped at 85 million. You can’t get any more than that out of the system.”
“Will we go back to four dollars [per gallon of gas]? Of course you’ll go back to four dollars.”
Granted, T Boone Pickens is heavily invested in the natural gas industry, and so he has a reason to criticize the competing product–oil.
October 16, 2009 speech at the University of Maryland.
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If so, do you believe the implications of it? When do you think global production will (or has) peak. Are you afraid of it?
During the last century we flexed our industrial might to build cars and home furnaces across the land. Pollution and fuel prices is causing people to examine thier energy alternatives now. Hopefully now our gas-burning cars and fuel-oil burning furnaces will be replaced with cheaper, more efficiant set ups that don’t pollute. oil production should decline then. Our industries will shift away from using petroleum products also. Maybe we will hardly use any oil at all by the end of this century. That would be good.